BoingBoing today writes a post about a “hipster church” in Seattle called Mars Hill (pointing to a longer article in Salon). Pretty interesting stuff.

I’ve been going to what some might call a “hipster church” here in Philadelphia called Circle of Hope. But that tag really bugs me. Sure, 90% of the kids at my church have tattoos. A bunch of them huddle outside services to smoke cigarettes. Everyone’s got tasseled hair. There are lots of beards. Half of us are in bands. Most of us live in an artsy ghetto.

But what makes us intensely different than the church explored in this Salon article, is that we are anything but fundamentalists. I admire those guys for trying to be different, to try and “sell” Jesus to down-and-out hipsters. But it seems like (at least according to the article) that they are way into the Fire & Brimstone spiel. FEAR.

The thing I love about the Circle of Hope is that it is populated by people who have rejected the mainstream version of American Protestantism and have begun to re-invent what it means to be an active body of believers. We are in the process of deconstructing an oppressive and destructive world view that was enforced upon many of us and has dominated the American political discourse for 50 years, and are building something new in its place. In some ways our views reflect an old-school throwback to who Jesus really was… a prophet walking around the country side with a band of hippies in tow, preaching love and peace and inner contentment, a philosophy that led directly to the downfall of the great empire and its stranglehold on his people.

That’s what we want to do. The people at Circle are working hard towards digging into our local neighborhood (one of the poorest, murder stricken urban areas in the country). We’re putting our actions before our words, in many ways. We’re not out to “save” anyone. We try to make an increasingly confusing and complex world more sane. An unlivable world more humane. We answer God’s call to love our neighbors. We’re radicals.

Yet many of us are angry. Angry at a conservative, ignorant America. Angry at how a church that preaches peace and love can BE just the opposite. Angry that society has only been able to make life more difficult and complicated, not easier and simplified. But we’re changing ourselves. Because the first way anyone can change the world for the better is to change oneself.

But while we work to deconstruct many of those dangerous, near-sighted teachings that have plagued us, we haven’t lost hope that once dismantled, divinity will guide us to constructing a new, healthy paradigm.

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  • As long as were talking about Hipster churches in Philly, I've got to give a shout out to Liberti (www.liberti.org)
  • Jeffrey
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  • Daughter of a minister of church talking here.

    Love, tolerance, respect and forgiveness. I was brought up believing in those things by my religious parents. Not all this Ifyoudon'tgotochurcheverySundayyou'llburninHell. They never forced it down my throat and I'll forever love them for that.

    It shocks me even today to see how brainwashed many are... I believe the true message was lost somewhere, don't you? When did church going fundamentalists become bullies? What happened to all the respect, love and helping those who truly need help? Why can't we all just get along? Hmmm?

    I remember having good discussions about this all with you. About the anger many have and many constantly feeling torn and guilty.

    Oh petal, fight those narrow minded, judgemental people that seem to be populating most of this planet. I'm right behind you.
  • Julius Rivera
    I don't know enough about Mars Hill to "hate on them." But I can speak on the Circle. As I read the article and your post, one of the things that jumped out at me was the word "mega-church." I deeply appreciate the fact that our community is not centralized into one huge location, but spread throughout the city. I'm sure it's cool to go to a cool warehouse space, but I definitely prefer intimate spaces that seat about 200 folks...
    julius - East
  • Your church sounds similar to mine--Broad Street Ministry. It's such a joy to find a church that pushes the messages of love, mercy and grace rather than fear and guilt. I'm still not transitioned yet, but I'm a lot happier. Getting deprogrammed from my past experiences is much more difficult than I expected, but once I realized that true Christianity isn't a work-exchange program with God, life got a little less stressful. I'd like to visit your church sometime, too... maybe you can let me know when/where you meet.
  • i thought i'd at least throw in that i loved your thoughs, mark. this was the most interesting thing on the whole internet today.

    at this point in my journey, tearing down stuff is pretty easy for me. building the "archaic" like Christ is leading is hard.

    i wrote more here

    i think i would also rather put the hipster term to bed like the co-opts blog.
  • FTM
    "mars hill’s view of gender roles doesn’t seem anymore biblical than radical feminism"

    The salon article fixates on that issue, like Mark Driscoll wrote the Bible or something. It's church in general they have a problem with, not Driscoll.
  • Christopher Puchalsky
    hi mark,
    I also look forward to meeting you. Thanks for posting this on the circle of hope dialogue list (listserve). Reading the salon article i had a mixture of feelings - "wow, i like that. God bless them," "yuck, how God-less .", and "hmm, i wonder if the author is distorting mars hill's views and life".

    2 things:
    1. turning women into baby factories does not seem like a good way to produce a city of christians. i know of no words of jesus, nor anywhere in the bible where this is even suggested. how distrubing for a group who claims to take the bible seriously. taking the great commision to heart and living fearlessly for the gospel will enable your neighbors and city to find salvation in jesus.

    2. on the subject of gender roles, mars hill's view of gender roles doesn't seem anymore biblical than radical feminism. i don't like using the bible as an excuse to oppress women and force them into some role that wasn't even present in the new testemant church. nor do i like the false gospel of "freedom" that modern society calls women to, but that looks more like an invitation to destructive selfish behavhior.

    it would be great if we at Circle of Hope could really try hard to listen to God to see what is the best roles for men and women in this time and place.

    cp (broad and washington)
  • I look forward to meeting you Mark! You've gained a lot of insight in a small amount of time, it seems. It is good to be building something authentic together. -- Rod White, Broad and Washington
  • Very inciteful post bro.
    I love the Circle of Hope for the very reasons you mention here. The fact that it's more of a community than a club. That the people there actually love each other, and show it through their actions, not just the normal "I'm praying for you"'s and careless "how are you"'s of mainstream American churches.
    I don't know to much about Mars Hill, and I am probably a tad more conservative than you, but I think the fundemental underlying point of your post is something that the church in the US could do well to learn from. The largely conservative church has moved away from the love that was central to Jesus. They (we) have forgotten the reason Christ came in the first place. Not because He wanted our money, or to condemn us. But because He loved us.

    God bless,
    Keep up the good posts.
  • FTM
    You can listen to Driscoll's sermon's online. Trust me, he isn't fire and brimstone. He's a cool dude. The salon article is just people trying to understand something that makes no sense in their narrow view of Christianity.
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